Sober 35 years since 12/16/1988, Chuck says there are "and" drinkers and "or" drinkers.
An "and" drinker can drink AND keep a job; drink AND keep relationships.
He could only drink OR stay employed - he could not do both.
His amends for his 9th DUI is a classic of facing fear through a principle centered life.
He is married to Beth who also led a workshop with Chuck and shared her story at this same event.
(46 min) (5.3 MB) (id#4597)