Chuck is in AA. Elsa is in Al-Anon. Years after this event, Chuck did a weekend retreat n Pala Mesa, CA (1975). The transcript of these talks were published as A New Pair of Glasses. Here he and Elsa take turns speaking on various topics related to building and maintaining a healthy relationship.
Intro through Chuck and his mom at 16.5 years sober as part of Q&A.
(1 hr 15 min) (17.3 MB) (id#71)